Episode 44

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2nd May 2024

Innovation Infusion: Accounting Software’s New Era

Ep: 44 Top experts answer: "What could the tech/software vendors do better to serve accountants?"

The Accounting Answers Podcast, hosted by Rob Brown, asks critical questions of the experts, leaders and influencers who shape the decision-making of accountants, CPAs and finance professionals. Today we ask:

What could the tech/software vendors do better to serve accountants?

You'll hear insightful and passionate answers from these 5 experts and influencers:

Amy Horner | Change Enthusiast, Business Strategy Consultant, Keynote Speaker, and Podcast Host

Amy Vetter | CPA, speaker, yogi and CEO of the B3 Method Institute

Andrew Argue | Founder of Instead.com and Corvee.com for smarter tax decisions

Anne-Kathrin Steinröder | Head of the ETL GLOBAL Network of accounting firms

Apoorv Dwivedi | Founder of Fixyr Marketing, strategic marketing advisor for accounting firms

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Transcript
Rob Brown:

The future of accountant, isn't just about

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numbers and financial statements.

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It's about empowering businesses to make

informed decisions, navigate complex

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challenges, achieve their financial goals.

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And everyone recognized that Kansans

are at the heart of this and must become

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trusted partners with business acumen

expertise in data analytics, storytelling,

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strategic guidance, taking the clients

towards success and whatever your role

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is in this ecosystem, you need to stay

ahead of the curve to stay relevant.

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And that's why this accounting

answers podcast was conceived to

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keep you informed and competitive.

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I'm your host, Rob brown, and

I've interviewed 111 accounting

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experts, leaders, advisors, vendors,

and influencers in the last few

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months and collected for you the

very best and latest thinking on

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what works and what is coming up.

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And this week, they show 10 to 15

minutes gets you the low down on

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what matters today in the rapidly

evolving accounting landscape.

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And the professional is shed

in its traditional image of

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number crunching, embracing a

bold new future data technology,

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strategic guidance, reign Supreme.

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I've asked the same five questions

throughout covering the next

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generation of accountants.

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The proactive advice they need to be

given the drivers have changed the

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role of tech and software vendors

post the best predictions for the

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next few years, let's get started and

hear what our experts have to say.

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Today, we're again, asking

people who care about accounting.

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A simple question.

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What role do the tech providers

and software vendors play in

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the evolution of the industry?

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Technology's playing an increasingly

crucial role in the accounting profession.

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And the consensus is the tech industry

needs to step up to meet the evolving

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demands of accountants, but how exactly.

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Listening as another five of our

111 influencers and experts share

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their wisdom and their best insights.

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Let's hear from Amy Horner, a change

enthusiastic business strategy

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consultant, keynote speaker, and

podcast host who brings innovative

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ideas and strategies to businesses.

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Looking to thrive in changing markets.

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It's very similar to how accountants

can do better to serve business leaders.

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Amy Horner: It's the strategy, the

solution, and the offering or repurposing

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of time while mitigating risk.

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Instead of saying, here's our off the

shelf solution, just plug it in and

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everything will be fine, because that is

Nothing could be further from the truth.

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I have never seen anybody plug in a

new application and it be seamless

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and easy and wonderful and everyone's

throwing their arms around it

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and, you know, confetti cannons.

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It is tough.

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I spoke not too long ago, to a group with

a large public accounting firm and, and

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helping them understand when they walk

into the client's office, they're not

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necessarily seen as a solution, right?

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They're seen as an expense.

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Or something we need to do or

something that's going to take a lot

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of time and so very much the same

is saying I'm here as a solution.

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I want to understand your business.

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I want to understand

your challenges, right?

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That's consultative selling at its

finest understand what's going on.

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And here's how I can help you, versus

here's how we're going to have to do

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a key change and remap your entire GL

that, I mean, that's not a good time.

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Have you ever done that?

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Have you ever remapped a GL?

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I've done it once.

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I will never do it again.

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Um, next is Amy Vetter.

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CPA speaker Yogi and CEO of

the B3 method into, to blend

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in her expertise in accounting.

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With mindfulness practices to

promote balanced leadership and

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wellbeing in a professional world.

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Amy Vetter: My opinion on how the tech

vendors can do better to serve accountants

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is that they better understand.

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The day in the life of an account that

they don't call accountants heroes.

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No accountant is going to

work every day to be a hero.

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So over and over that has been marketing

speak and tech companies for as long

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as I can remember that you truly

walk in their shoes and understand

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why they love this profession.

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So a lot of times.

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You know, the value proposition for

many tech vendors is that this will

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take away this work for you or you

don't have to do that drudgery anymore.

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And the problem is accountants

like that, like accountants that

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truly love the work that they do.

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Like the work that they do.

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So just like in a diversity sense, if

you are going to work in a profession

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and serve that profession, it's

important to understand the mindset

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of that profession and where they

get joy out of the work that they do.

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In all my years in the tech industry,

being inside tech companies, as well

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as outside of tech companies, what I

have seen is as a tech company grows,

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they get further and further away

from innovation and taking risks.

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And start moving into safety.

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And that is what deters someone from

wanting to work with that company anymore

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when they get too large and they're not

coming up with the big ideas anymore.

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They're not coming up with

the innovation anymore.

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That it starts looking antiquated when

at one time you joined that software

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because it was the newest thing.

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So, my advice to tech companies is

to never lose that passion of why

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you started in the first place.

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What actually drives you?

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What's your purpose?

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To make sure that you are constantly

innovating and you keep that

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startup mindset, even if you get

very large and very successful.

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Joining the conversation now is Andrew

argue the founder of instead.com and

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coffee.com dedicated to helping businesses

and individuals make smarter tax decisions

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through innovative software solutions..

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Andrew Argue: I think right now there's

like a lot of different tools out there

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that people use and they're taking.

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AI and they're bolting it on as like

co pilots and chats and so forth.

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I think a lot of these companies

though, probably if they were to

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rebuild their product from the ground

up and make AI, not an add on to what

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they currently do, but make it the

core of the product, I think you're

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going to see a better experience.

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Like, what does it look like when AI

is the core of the general ledger?

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Or what does it look like when the

AI is the core of the tax preparation

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and compliance and advisory

process or the core of an audit?

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And I think the companies that, even if

they are a big company, if they decide

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to kind of, rebuild their product.

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From the ground up with that at the

center, I think are going to have

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a much stronger position and much

better value profit for the firms.

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think it's hard to say because,

like I said, people still use.

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10 keys with receipts on them.

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So it's, hard to say there's, there's

a lot of things today that were built

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in the seventies and the eighties.

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So I think that things will linger

on a lot longer than people think.

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so it's, hard to make some,

like a doomsday prediction that

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it'll be all doom and gloom for

them or like in the short term.

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But I do just think it's

sort of managed decline.

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if they don't make that adaptation, sort

of a secular managed decline versus.

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Innovation in the future and I do think

eventually the tides will turn and

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they'll feel pain, but it could take

a while because a lot of businesses

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are very comfortable where they're at,

and individuals are comfortable where

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they're at, and the firms are very

comfortable with stuff they're with.

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And so it probably will take

longer than people think.

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The technology will be much, you know,

will be much better if they switch, but

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I think there'll be, there'll be stubborn

groups of people there for a while.

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It'll keep those companies afloat.

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And now insights from I'm Katherine

Stein, Rhoda headed the ETL global

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network of accounting firms, where

she spearheads initiatives to foster

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collaboration and innovation across

the global accounting landscape.

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Ann-Kathrin Steinroder: I think

that's a two directions thing.

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It's not only that, software vendors

can do better to serve accountants,

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but it's also the accountants who

have to do something for it because

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there's always a language barrier.

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So both.

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Both sides need to understand each other.

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So, usually software developers

and tech vendors don't really

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understand what accountants are doing.

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And the other way around accountants

don't understand what software

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developers are doing and what

they need to know to develop the

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perfect, well systems for them.

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So in that sense, both.

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sides need to be open or more open to

understand each other and, and work

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together on, well, the perfect solution.

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And I think it's the same thing

everywhere, even in my whole

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household appliances at home.

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If I look at my coffee machine,

you always wonder like, okay,

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what did the developer think?

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Did he ever make a cup of coffee

himself when he developed this?

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Software to make this appliance work.

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So it's the same thing in accounting.

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I think that basically the developer needs

to understand what the task is and what

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in the end the user experience is like.

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And on the other hand, well, there's also

an obligation from, from the receiving

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part to tell exactly what he's needing.

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So it's a language thing.

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We now turn to our pod Dwivedi founder

of fixer marketing, a strategic

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marketing advisor for accounting firms,

bringing cutting edge strategies to the

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forefront of accounting firm growth.

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Appoorv Dwivedi: you know,

again, I come from, marketing

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and customer research background.

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So I'm always about the

client and about the customer.

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So, you know, if I think if I

look at the tech industry and the

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accounting software vendors, they're

out there, particularly the big ones.

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How can they better serve accountants?

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They can better serve accountants

by better serving accountants.

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customers.

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So if they better understand what

clients are demanding of their

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accountants, then they can help the

accountants to deliver that right.

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And you know, I go back to something

I said previously, but it's not a

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one size fits all solution, right?

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For some, maybe it

means faster for others.

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Maybe it's does it allow them to be

cheaper or does it allow them provide

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more communications and more touch points.

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Does it allow them to provide

more reporting or insights or

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other value as well, right?

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So, um, but, you know, I, I think the,

the vendors that figure that out, um,

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and really understand how their tools are

being used by accountants for the benefits

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of their customers, um, are the ones that,

um, are really going to win going forward.

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So they have five grand

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answer to the question.

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What could the tech and software vendors

do better to serve accountants each

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work in depth that week, Monday through

Friday, we give you the insights of five

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top influencers in the accounting world.

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On this critical area of the

tech providers, software vendors

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and how they serve accountants.

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Accounting Answers Podcast
Asking critical questions of the experts, leaders and influencers who shape the decision-making of accountants, CPAs and finance professionals
The ACCOUNTING ANSWERS PODCAST is hosted by Rob Brown, co-founder of the Accounting Influencers Roundtable (AIR). Join hundreds of others on our next virtual speed networking event for influential leaders and professionals in the accounting, finance and tech world:
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On this daily show with short, sharp episodes, Rob asks a range of experts and influencers the critical questions shaping the accounting profession. It keeps you informed of what's happening in the accounting world and the whole ecosystem of consultants, organizations, vendors and advisors who serve them.

Host Rob Brown is a renowned presenter, facilitator and chair of high-level conferences, panels and events globally for the accounting and fintech profession. He is retained by many professional networks, alliances, associations, practices and vendors to chair their events and provide high-level interview content for their communities. He is a dynamic speaker and accomplished expert on trust, reputation, employer brand, talent, career development, succession, gen z/generations, employee advocacy and executive presence. https://www.linkedin.com/in/therobbrown/

Rob is author of the bestselling book Build Your Reputation (Wiley) and his TEDx talk ‘The Personal Brand of You’ has been viewed over 300,000 times on YouTube. He is a stroke survivor, has epilepsy, is a committed Christian and has a black belt in kickboxing. He is based in Nottingham UK, home of Robin Hood, plays chess and backgammon, loves orange chocolate and is allergic to grapefruit.

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Rob Brown hosts the multiple accounting podcast and chair conferences, panels and events globally for the accounting and fintech profession. He is co-founder of Accounting Influencers Roundtable (AIR) which helps vendors, experts and influencers serve the accounting and finance world. He is a dynamic speaker and accomplished expert on trust, reputation, employer brand, talent, career development, succession, gen z/generations, employee advocacy and executive presence. Rob is author of the bestselling book Build Your Reputation (Wiley) and his TEDx talk ‘The Personal Brand of You’ has been viewed 400,000 times on YouTube. He is a stroke survivor, has epilepsy, is a committed Christian and has a black belt in kickboxing. He is based in Nottingham UK, home of Robin Hood, plays chess and backgammon, loves orange chocolate and is allergic to grapefruit.